High 5 Adventure - The Podcast

In this engaging conversation, Phil Brown, Lisa Hunt, and Ty Gagne (Author of The Last Traverse, Where You'll Find Me and The Lions of Winter) explore the intricate relationship between risk and adventure. They discuss the importance of understanding risk heuristics, the dynamics of group decision-making, and the role of certifications in adventure education. Ty shares insights on how to learn from mistakes, the significance of communication in emergency situations, and the emotional challenges faced when telling stories of loss and adventure. The discussion also touches on the evolving perception of risk and the importance of encouraging adventure in a risk-averse society.   Adventure inherently involves risk and uncertainty. Fear can be a beneficial aspect of adventure. Heuristics are mental shortcuts that can lead to cognitive traps. Situational awareness is crucial for safety in familiar environments. Group dynamics significantly influence individual risk tolerance. Certifications are important but s

This is episode 300! In this conversation, Jim Grout discusses his new book, emphasizing the importance of connection in leadership. He shares personal experiences that shaped his beliefs, the significance of authenticity, and the role of storytelling in effective leadership. The discussion also highlights the value of reflection and embracing uncertainty as a leader, ultimately encouraging listeners to lead with their hearts.   Leadership is rooted in connection rather than process. Teachers exemplify the ultimate form of leadership through connection. Caring is essential in leadership; people respond to those who care. The title of the book reflects the importance of leading with heart. Reflection questions in the book are designed to prompt personal growth. Authenticity is crucial; leaders should be true to themselves. Surrounding oneself with knowledgeable people enhances leadership effectiveness. Embracing uncertainty is a natural part of leadership. Storytelling is a powerful tool for connecting

In this conversation, Phil Brown and Katrina Kennedy explore the themes of learning and development, reflection, and facilitation. Katrina shares her insights on how reflection is not just about looking back but is action-oriented, emphasizing the importance of facilitating effective learning experiences. They discuss the evolution of facilitation, the role of silence, and the importance of connection in the learning process. Katrina also provides an overview of her book, which includes practical activities for facilitators to enhance their skills and engage learners effectively.   Learning and development encompasses various methods to help people perform effectively. Reflection is action-oriented, focusing on what to do next after recalling experiences. Facilitators should prioritize the needs of the learners over their own presentation style. Silence in facilitation can be a powerful tool for reflection and engagement. Facilitators must be adaptable and comfortable with the unknown during sessions. Pr

In this conversation, Phil and Leo explore the concept of connection, particularly in new environments, and how facilitators can foster deeper connections among participants. They discuss the importance of vulnerability, curiosity, and the role of tools like the 52 Fathoms deck in facilitating meaningful interactions. The conversation also touches on lessons learned from Leo's experience on Survivor, emphasizing the significance of observation and reflection in the facilitation process. Connection is a vital part of human interaction. Facilitators can guide deeper connections through thoughtful questions. Vulnerability can lead to more meaningful conversations. Using tools like 52 Fathoms can enhance group dynamics. Observation is key to understanding group interactions. Curiosity drives deeper engagement in conversations. Facilitators should adapt activities to fit their style. Conflict resolution can be learned from real-life experiences. Creating a safe space encourages openness among participants. Reflec

In this conversation, Phil Brown and Dr. Kate Lund explore the concept of resilience, particularly in the context of parenting and education. They discuss the importance of fostering resilience in children, the role of parents in modeling behavior, and the impact of anxiety across generations. The conversation also touches on the challenges of navigating independence in a digital age, the significance of a growth mindset, and practical strategies like the 'daily wins' exercise to enhance resilience. Dr. Lund shares personal experiences and insights from her work, emphasizing that perfect parenting is a myth and that resilience can be cultivated through intentional practices.   Resilience involves a set of skills and strategies for navigating challenges. Parents play a crucial role in fostering resilience in their children. Anxiety is more openly discussed today than in previous generations. Independence for children should be balanced with safety and guidance. Social media can impact children's self-regu

In this conversation, Phil Brown and Rach Davis explore the complexities of facilitation, particularly focusing on the dynamics of introversion, energy management, and the importance of personal style in facilitating workshops. They discuss the need for downtime after high-energy sessions, and the adaptability required in facilitation practices. Rach shares insights on balancing personal and professional energy, the evolution of her facilitation style, and the significance of creating engaging environments for participants. The conversation emphasizes the importance of self-awareness, flexibility, and continuous learning in the facilitation process.   Selective introversion affects energy levels during facilitation. Facilitators often wear a 'mask' in professional settings. Downtime is essential for recharging after high-energy sessions. Balancing personal and professional energy is crucial. Facilitation does not always need to be high energy. Understanding participant dynamics enhances facilitation effe

In this conversation, Phil and Graeme Hill discuss the importance of inclusivity in outdoor activities, particularly for individuals with disabilities and neurodivergent conditions. They explore the barriers that prevent participation, the need for a focus on abilities rather than disabilities, and the role of instructors and administrators in creating accessible environments. Graeme shares insights from his extensive experience in the field, emphasizing the importance of adapting programming and equipment to meet the needs of all participants. The discussion also touches on changing attitudes towards disability, financial considerations, and the future of inclusive outdoor activities.   Inclusivity in outdoor activities is essential for everyone. Focus on abilities rather than disabilities to empower participants. Barriers to participation often come from misconceptions and risk aversion. Instructors need training to support neurodivergent individuals effectively. Changing attitudes towards disability i

This conversation with Dee Scarano delves into the concept of psychological safety, emphasizing the importance of honesty and vulnerability in communication. Dee shares how fear of judgment can hinder open expression and explore practical strategies for creating an environment where individuals feel safe to share their thoughts. They highlight the significance of anonymity, comfort zones, and standardized formats in fostering inclusivity and collaboration.    Honesty in communication fosters psychological safety. Psychological safety allows individuals to voice their thoughts without fear. Fear of judgment is a significant barrier to open communication. Anonymity is crucial for creating a safe space for sharing ideas. Building comfort zones is essential before encouraging risk-taking. Standardized formats help ensure equal contributions from all participants. Facilitators must create structures that promote psychological safety. Understanding human behavior is key to effective facilitation. Sharing knowl

In this engaging podcast episode, Phil Brown, Sherry Bagley, and Chad Littlefield explore the themes of curiosity, experiential education, and the importance of relationships in facilitation. They discuss how questions can unlock deeper conversations, the significance of observation in understanding group dynamics, and the value of critique for continuous improvement. The conversation also touches on the role of charisma and authenticity in facilitation, the necessity of structure, and the inspiration drawn from community and relationships. The episode concludes with reflections on personal growth and the power of asking questions.   Questions are the key that unlocks the door to deeper understanding. Building relationships is foundational in experiential education. Observation is crucial for facilitators to meet group needs. Critique is essential for continuous improvement in practice. Staying curious prevents stagnation in long-term facilitation. Charisma can be developed as a skill over time. Structur

In this conversation, Phil Brown and Jimmy Burroughes delve into the critical issue of burnout in the workplace, exploring its definitions, symptoms, personal experiences, and the broader implications for organizations. They discuss the alarming statistics surrounding employee engagement and burnout, emphasizing the need for effective strategies to combat these issues. Jimmy shares his personal journey through burnout and the lessons learned, while also providing actionable advice for leaders and organizations to foster a healthier work environment. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding burnout not just as an individual issue, but as a systemic challenge that affects overall organizational health and productivity.   Burnout is defined by the imbalance between expectations and ability. Key symptoms of burnout include anxiety, isolation, and a lack of care. Many high achievers are at risk of burnout due to their commitment. The workplace has become more demanding, leading to increased

This episode celebrates the 25th anniversary of High 5 Adventure Learning Center, featuring stories and interviews from participants who share their transformative experiences. The conversation highlights the impact of adventure education on personal growth, community building, and the importance of relationships in fostering confidence and leadership skills.   Order of interviews; 1 - Ron Vercellone - Dean of Students, Greater Lowell Technical High School 2 - Bob Rojee - Senior Advisor, SPARC (Summer Programs and Auxiliary Revenue Collaborative) 3 - Alycia Nored - Wellness Teacher, Cony Middle and High School 4 - Dave Langston - Camp Dudley/ Camp Kiniya 5 - Nicki Hall - Founding Member of High 5 25th Anniversary Online Auction - https://www.32auctions.com/High52025 Support the podcast - www.verticalplaypen.com Music and sound effects - www.epidemicsound.com    

Phil Brown and Rebecca Courtney delve into the concept of emergent facilitation, exploring its principles, preparation strategies, and the importance of building connections with participants. They discuss the challenges of facilitating in corporate environments, the value of addressing fears, and the benefits of working with challenging groups. The conversation emphasizes the need for facilitators to trust their intuition and adapt to the needs of the group, moving away from rigid agendas to a more fluid approach. Rebecca shares insights on how they teach emergent facilitation at AJ&Smart, highlighting the importance of resilience and adaptability in the role of a facilitator.   Emergent facilitation is about adaptability and flow. Unshakeability is crucial for facilitators. Experience helps build resilience in facilitation. Preparation involves both mental and physical readiness. Connecting with participants is essential before diving into content. Addressing fears can shift group energy positively

In this conversation, Phil and Lisa explore the complexities of defining what makes a group great in a facilitation context. They discuss the role of the facilitator's ego, the subjective nature of group dynamics, and the importance of evaluating success beyond personal feelings. The dialogue emphasizes the need for facilitators to balance their own experiences with the goals of the group, ultimately leading to a deeper understanding of participant engagement and learning outcomes. A great group often means the facilitator felt liked. Facilitators' egos can influence their perception of group success. Group dynamics are subjective and can vary by facilitator. Struggle in a group can lead to greater learning experiences. It's important to evaluate groups based on goals, not just feelings. Facilitators should embrace their humanity in the process. The definition of a great group can differ among facilitators. Patience and support within a group enhance the experience. Fun and challenge can coexist in group se

In this conversation, Phil Brown and Will Dobud discuss the themes of youth mental health, the perceptions of today's youth, and the importance of experiential education. They explore the origins of the book 'Kids These Days', the societal tendency to label and control youth, and the historical context of education and mental health. The discussion emphasizes the need for adults to rethink their approach to youth, focusing on building connections and understanding the environmental influences on development.   Historical figures have often lamented the state of youth, dating back to Socrates. Overprotection of youth can lead to disconnection and misunderstanding. Experiential education allows youth to take risks and learn from failures. The industrialized education system may not serve the needs of today's youth. Mental health diagnoses may reflect societal failures rather than individual issues. Youth can be seen as indicators of societal health, akin to canaries in coal mines. Environmental factors sig

In this conversation, Phil shares his experiences and observations regarding cultural differences in facilitation and education between the United States and England. He discusses the energetic and often overly positive approach prevalent in American facilitation, contrasting it with the more reserved and dry style he associates with English culture. The conversation also touches on language barriers, particularly the use of cursing, and how these cultural nuances impact communication and facilitation styles. Phil emphasizes the importance of understanding these differences to enhance the effectiveness of facilitation across diverse cultural contexts.   Phil reflects on his blend of American and English styles. American facilitation often feels overly peppy to Phil. He finds certain American facilitation stories unnecessary. Phil associates American culture with toxic positivity. Cursing is more accepted in England than in the U.S. Language context is crucial in communication. Facilitation styles vary si

In this episode, Phil Brown and Lisa Hunt discuss the upcoming workshop offering, 'Navigating Challenging Dialogue,' exploring its framework, importance, and real-life applications. They delve into the reasons why people avoid difficult conversations, the steps involved in preparing for such dialogues, and the benefits of personal scenarios in workshops. The conversation emphasizes the value of communication skills in various contexts, aiming to equip listeners with tools to navigate challenging dialogues effectively. Navigating challenging dialogue is a common human experience. Many avoid difficult conversations due to fear of damaging relationships. Preparation is key to effective communication in challenging dialogues. The process involves identifying the story in your head and relevant facts. Emotions are important but should be managed during difficult conversations. Real-life scenarios enhance the learning experience in workshops. Everyone can benefit from improving their communication skills. The wor

"ADHD is not an excuse, it's a reason." In this episode, Phil and Ky Westcott (mental health advocate - @thevibewithky) delve into the complexities of introversion, mental health, and the evolving understanding of ADHD. They discuss the importance of authenticity in sharing personal struggles, the rise in ADHD diagnoses, and the need for better education around mental health in schools. Ky shares his journey from injury to self-discovery through social media, emphasizing the significance of vulnerability and emotional intelligence in today's youth. The conversation highlights the impact of societal changes on mental health awareness and the importance of supporting individuals in their mental health journeys.   Introversion does not limit performative abilities. The journey of self-discovery can start from personal struggles. Social media can be a platform for authenticity and connection. ADHD awareness is increasing due to more open conversations. Education systems need to adapt to the emotional intel

In this episode, Phil revisits the influential book 'Silver Bullets' by Karl Rohnke, sharing key insights and play pointers that remain relevant in adventure education today. He emphasizes the importance of engagement, flexibility in rules, variety in activities, inclusivity in team selection, and self-competition, all aimed at enhancing the experiential learning process. Engagement in activities is crucial for effective learning. Flexibility in rules can enhance participation and enjoyment. Variety in activities prevents boredom and keeps participants engaged. Inclusivity in team selection fosters a sense of belonging. Self-competition encourages personal growth and motivation. Minimizing rules can lead to more dynamic and engaging activities. Bending rules can adapt activities to fit different groups. Avoiding repetitive activities maintains interest and excitement. Observation can be a valid form of participation. Karl Rohnke's principles continue to influence adventure education. Connect with Phil; ema

Phil discusses the top five skills essential for effective belaying. He emphasizes the importance of physicality, communication, adaptability, checklist adherence, and understanding physics in belaying. Each skill is explored in detail, providing insights and practical tips for both novice and experienced belayers. Phil encourages listeners to engage with him on social media to share their own insights and experiences.   Belaying requires a solid understanding of physicality and stance. Effective communication with climbers builds trust and safety. Receiving feedback is crucial for improving belaying skills. Checklists help prevent complacency and ensure safety. Understanding physics can enhance belaying effectiveness. Maintaining a proper belay stance protects your body. Regular check-ins with climbers can improve their experience. Adaptability in technique is key to being a great belayer. Visual aids can enhance understanding of belaying techniques. Engagement with the climbing community fosters learni

This conversation delves into the significance of organizational culture, emphasizing its role in staff retention, employee engagement, and overall organizational health. Phil and Jim discuss the intentional strategies employed at High 5 to foster a positive culture, the importance of personal connections, and how challenges can test and strengthen that culture. They highlight the need for organizations to prioritize relationships and create environments conducive to growth, ultimately leading to a more engaged and committed workforce.   Culture is integral to what we do. Creating conditions suitable for growth is essential. Modeling good culture is more impactful than direct advice. Building connections and relationships is key to retention. Simple gestures can significantly enhance workplace culture. People leave jobs due to feelings, not just salary. Intentional strategies are necessary for fostering culture. Personal connections enhance team dynamics and morale. Culture is tested during challenging t