Be Real Podcast

Hey guys, today my guest is Kalen Kaminski, expert prop stylist and fonder of Upstate – a home and apparel collection that makes beautiful shibori tye died pieces. Kalen talks moving to New York with no plan right after college and going from being a nanny to having a full time freelance career in prop styling while starting her clothing business. She explains how exactly she broke into the freelance world, how she handles the ups and down of not getting a steady pay check and goes into the woes of being a small business owner – particularly learning how to streamline production. This is a great episode for anyone starting a small business – especially something where you're actually making a product, anyone who wants to get into freelancing or those of you who are just graduating college and are not sure what you want to do after. What I love about Kalen's story is that she stumbled upon these different professions because of her curiosity and interest. It's very evident that her intuition and knowledge that