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In this episode of Tales from the Pros, Michael Georgiou sits down with Chris Ronzio, founder and CEO of Trainual, to talk about what it really takes to build a business that can grow without breaking.Chris shares his journey from starting his first business at 14 to running a nationwide operation and eventually launching Trainual, a platform designed to help small businesses document their processes, train their teams, and scale with confidence. Along the way, he explains why so many founders unintentionally build themselves into a job instead of a company.This conversation goes deep into systems, productivity, and leadership, covering everything from bootstrapping versus raising capital to creating operational clarity, protecting personal well-being, and defining success on your own terms. If you are a founder or operator trying to get out of the weeds and build something sustainable, this episode offers practical insight you can actually apply.